So After all the Build-Up and Hype, Is there any Difference Between Octane and Scout?

[Scott]

Not that I'm in the market for a cruiser, but tbh, it's not that bad looking of a bike. If I were in the market, I'd consider it anyway. General purpose short trip (less than 300 miles) bike, minimalist, etc.

Yeah, I guess "for a cruiser" both the Scout and Octane aren't that bad, but why even make this when you have the Scout? I was sort of hoping that now that Polaris has Indian, that would be their cruiser brand and Victory could start making something I'd consider buying.

If the Octane had come out with a shorter rake, more rear-set pegs and minimalist rear-fender (relatively simple mods), it would be different than the Scout and could start turning the Victory brand into something much more interesting.

Ever since Victory started, I've been hoping for something more, but they never seem to come through. EBR makes the bikes I want, but they don't have the resources to go all out. Polaris has the resources, but they seem content to just continue to 'me-too' Harley.

I just have to hope EBR can get their feet solidly under them so we can finally have the kind of American motorcycle company I've been hoping for for over 40 years.

[Plotter]

Yeah, I guess "for a cruiser" both the Scout and Octane aren't that bad, but why even make this when you have the Scout? I was sort of hoping that now that Polaris has Indian, that would be their cruiser brand and Victory could start making something I'd consider buying.

If the Octane had come out with a shorter rake, more rear-set pegs and minimalist rear-fender (relatively simple mods), it would be different than the Scout and could start turning the Victory brand into something much more interesting.

Ever since Victory started, I've been hoping for something more, but they never seem to come through. EBR makes the bikes I want, but they don't have the resources to go all out. Polaris has the resources, but they seem content to just continue to 'me-too' Harley.

I just have to hope EBR can get their feet solidly under them so we can finally have the kind of American motorcycle company I've been hoping for for over 40 years.

Scott,

I totally agree that they are just following the basic design and looks concept of Harley, but the big difference is in the quality and ride-ability of what Victory and Indian are putting out. Harley was so slow to actual modify designs based upon new technology like they were better than that and now Victory is in and they are eating into the client base.

Side by side, if I was going to buy a new cruiser, I would hands down say Victory/Indian is the better bike and my choice...

I also completely agree that I would love for them to break into the market we want... They have the resources and marketing skills to make a company like EBR work... They just unfortunately aren't willing to take the risk at this time, because the current strategy isn't broken...