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Thread: When will EBR be fully operational? Questions to the Owner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Classax View Post
    Best of fortunes Bruce.

    I would suggest that at some point in the future before you go public with your next steps that you and your team host a conference call with your key remaining, dealers particularly the sponsor of this forum AF1 racing, and some of the owners who have lived with these machines and the EBR experience for the last two years. Some critical mistakes were made by EBR early on and YOU must not repeat them or approach the problems in the same way because the results will prove even more catastrophic for the brand and company. There is still a ton bad information out there concerning these machines. Worse than that was perceived lack of communication between EBR and the dealer network. While novel the service manual is NOT what your core buyer is looking for. Your market in my opinion are guys and gals who are, proud of being different, prefer v twins for their sound, narrowness and or power delivery, value cornerspeed and handling over outright horsepower, and reliability over style. They tend to have grease under their fingernails. They are information addicts.

    Our informal pole shows that while the average S1krr, Panigale and even fewer Nippon I4 is only likely to see a race track by less than 8% of their owners, where as in our small sample 52% of EBR owners are active participants in track days or racing, and of those 75% ride both track and street on the same machine, so it would seem getting the race support side of the business (which was sustainable prior to production) might be the first easy win. There are more and more guys starting to win at the club level but parts are scarce.

    In terms of electronics I do NOT think your buyers want anti wheelie,slide, launch, skill control. The 1190 even with 20 more hp simply doesn't need it, the geometry puts the power to the ground in a way that negates its usefulness. Most of your owners don't even turn it on. What they need is and easy way to get telemetry( speed, TPS, RPMs, coolant and oil temps) to smart devices, simple unobtrusive traction control (that doesn't limit peak power when on at lower levels) and a dash and control combination that allows TC adjustment on the fly while in laptimer mode. At a bare minimum not another should roll out of the factory without a quickshifter! The fact that EBR was not the first bike with WiFi/Blutooth telemetry was a HUGE mistake that needs to be corrected. As a gesture to your loyal first adopters improvements 1190 series should be retrofittable to previous models. Its not to late too make the EBR an heirloom type product, machines that are geometrical superior, mechanically sound, and future proof.

    After 12K miles and working through all the teething problems I can honestly recommend the RX as a first literbike, because its so easy to ride and it has enough power to keep pace with all but factory prepared it will be rebuilt this weekend and we don't pay for our parts race machines down all but the very longest straights. Corey West proved it bone stock it could run out drive and hold off S1KRRs piloted by expert racers down the longest straights at COTA. I'll take more power but I don't NEED more power. Where we need to improve is brakes. Namely pads. The whole bike is Lorenzo vs Marquez. Despite being a liter bike, it should be ridden cornerspeed style to be successful instead of point and pray like an I4.

    Those are just some of my thoughts as an owner who will be on the track at least 9 more times before the end of the season and ridding the bike every day I can inbetween. We look forward to EBR moving forward.

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    Good to hear. You've a few fans down under Bruce.
    I enjoy the fact that very few people in Australia are familiar with this weapon that I sit astride of, merely looking on with equal parts awe and consternation...
    At the same time I realize that the brand needs more exposure to really succeed.

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    this is the number one thing on my mind! warranty would be best to keep good faith us

    Quote Originally Posted by Plotter View Post
    Let's hear from Bruce on the warranties... Quite a few people would like to know... Any insight?
    + 1 any word on this, Bruce?

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    Bruce posted this to Facebook a couple of days ago in response to the question about warranties and some similar questions:

    Gents, I'm sure you are aware that restarting a company takes time and effort. Sorry I'm not so active online, but that's because I'm working my ass off behind the scenes. Once there is a new company to address your questions with, all your questions will be addressed! Hang in there. I know what you need and what we have to do.

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    Something I'm also wondering is for the people who bought the bikes post mortem if any sort of warranty will be offered or things like the clutch actuator that was being replaced at no cost, will be honored once again.

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    I realize these things take time and there's probably a lot happening behind the scenes and it will still probably be quite a while before bikes are available and things are really up and running . . . but arrrrrrrrrrgghhhhhhhh.

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    Two small hints of upcoming EBR news have been dropped in the last week:

    Last Monday, someone asked Erik on Facebook when we would get some good news; Erik responded "Probably end of the month."

    Yesterday, our resident long-time Buell insider on Badweb posted "Could be a big week for EBR".

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    Awesome! The new EBR should probably set up an Australian/Asian distribution and start from there.

    Have we heard anything from Larry Pegram since the receivership? If Pegram can set up a team for Moto America and Splitlath can continue their thing, EBR could have a small but appropriate racing presence that (hopefully) wouldn't get back into WSBK until they were really ready after racing at the lower levels.

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    I was really hoping we'd see some kind of announcement this morning, but so far, nothing. It's early in the day, so maybe we'll see something before the day's out.

    The only info of interest I've seen in the last week (both mentioned on Badweb) is that owners received a couple of letters from the court which had to do with dispersal of funds from the sale of EBR assets. The first letter was about payment of the Receiver and various firms that assisted in the marketing and sale of EBR assets. The second was about payments to former employees of EBR. Both letters basically said "we're getting ready to pay these folks; if you have any objections, let us know."

    These actions apparently have no bearing on "new" EBR as their purchase of EBR assets has already been approved by the court.

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