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Slickit
09-16-2015, 08:20 PM
I wanted to start a thread here as a plea to Erik and Bruce about a specific shortcoming that has been seen on the bikes.

WELDS!

If you have had any issue regarding welds, cracking, breaking, separation or whatever please post here with the following or similar format please:

Model: RX / SX / RS
last 3 of VIN: (optional) but may help with tracking
Location of specific fault:
Type of damage:
Miles:

And did damage occur in any other than normal circumstance:


Example and first entry below v

Slickit
09-16-2015, 08:28 PM
Model: 1190RX
VIN: 133
Location: (forward) Rear header heat shield mount
Damage: Heatshield mounting bracket completely off header
Miles: 1988 (50%) track miles

Circumstance: damage assumed occurred during easy pleasure ride today.


625

Slickit
09-16-2015, 08:35 PM
Model: 1190RX
VIN: 133
Location: Front sensor mount on forward header
Damage: Sensor mount completely broken off around base of weld
Miles: 1988 (50%) track miles

Circumstance: damage occurred during easy pleasure ride today.


626

zviadi
09-17-2015, 04:07 AM
Model: RX
VIN: 057
Milleage: 3430 km
The exhaust manifold of the front cylinder broken at the weld seams.
Milleage: 10116 km
Left front mount of muffler is dumps, muffler broke at the weld seams.

No photos.

Classax
09-20-2015, 11:08 AM
Model: 1190RX
VIN: 133
Location: (forward) Rear header heat shield mount
Damage: Heatshield mounting bracket completely off header
Miles: 1988 (50%) track miles

Circumstance: damage assumed occurred during easy pleasure ride today.


625

Yea my front rear heat shield mount is broken for the second time, and of course the front header blew out at the seams due to loss of the front muffler mount bolt. As for the RC8 comment that's a negative ghostrider, RX despite its troubles is far more refined.

Mike
09-20-2015, 07:07 PM
Just a note about the muffler "weld" breakage.
At least on mine, the weld didn't break or tear, the metal above the weld pulled apart. In a "V" pattern well away from the weld.

Hmm, I'll try to remember to look when I replace the bad body panels to see if my weld survived the crash...

Mike

Betterbuell
09-22-2015, 04:02 AM
It's a twin , part and parcel of the deal.

zviadi
09-22-2015, 02:55 PM
Anyway, this should not be! Especially in this price range.
I drive on twins 9 years - on any weld seams do not crack. I owned Honda SP-1, Aprilia RSV1000R, Aprilia Dorsoduro 1200, KTM 990 Super Duke.

Hughlysses
09-23-2015, 06:20 AM
Model: 1190RX
VIN: 133
Location: Front sensor mount on forward header
Damage: Sensor mount completely broken off around base of weld
Miles: 1988 (50%) track miles

Circumstance: damage occurred during easy pleasure ride today.


626

The break occurred in the "heat affected zone" adjacent to the weld. Read all about it on page 3 (page 4 of PDF): http://www.lincolnelectric.com/en-us/support/process-and-theory/Documents/weldcracking.pdf

I'd guess it was caused by inadequate quality control in the welding process.

d_adams
09-23-2015, 06:43 AM
Lack of purge gas. I looked at the inside of a couple of headers, all of them show signs of sugaring, which is from little or no argon on the back side of the weld.

d_adams
08-07-2016, 06:34 PM
At least we aren't alone with this. Ducati 1299's suffer from it as well.

1080

buell-fan
08-07-2016, 07:03 PM
What kind of welders are they employing? Quality control, pride in their work, anybody... Anything to save a buck in the name of production and profits!

d_adams
08-07-2016, 07:23 PM
They're production mig welds, someone is in a hurry I'd assume.

zviadi
08-08-2016, 12:23 AM
Aprilia DD1200:
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On this bike broke subframe three times on the run:

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Last two pics are not mine, they are from aprilia-forum AF1. But I did exactly the same thing.

EBR have still not so bad.