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Betterbuell
07-20-2015, 06:49 AM
What's the low down on brake pads ? Track orientated please, as I dont feel the std ones are up to it . Are there carbon pads available, and does anyone know what the sbk guys were running ?

noone1569
07-20-2015, 09:01 AM
Put ferrodo HH on mine, never looking back, so much better feel, held up pretty well at the track yesterday, too.

mackja
07-20-2015, 10:21 AM
The best pads period are the sbs 856ds race pads, stopping power is amazing, you can one finger it in most situations, and they ware like iron, problem is they are hard to get right now, I have been in contact with sbs and they are working on getting more of there race products here. Nissin 2015 would be the next best pad again little hard to find.

Betterbuell
07-20-2015, 04:34 PM
Thanks , i'll start looking . mine were worn down to 0.7mm , guess that was why they were failing.

noone1569
07-21-2015, 09:09 AM
What are folks using for rear pads? Are they same as the 1125?

mackja
07-21-2015, 10:11 AM
Rear pads are the same between the 1125r/cr and the 1190rx/sx. There is a variety of stock pads available from EBC, DP, sbs, performance friction, etc....
American Sportbike sells a good selection.

noone1569
07-21-2015, 10:53 AM
Thanks, wanted to make sure. But now I'm thinking about doing the brembo caliper swap.

zviadi
07-24-2015, 04:07 PM
Stock front brake pads have served 3,800 km. They have been replaced by Braking. After 1500 km of run from them remaining half.
All this bike so consumes pads or just me?

Betterbuell
07-24-2015, 04:42 PM
I managed 1000km and 1 track day . OEM pads

mackja
07-24-2015, 06:34 PM
I put 21,000 street miles on my 1125r only changed the pads once, 4,000 track miles on two sets, still on my second set, sbs ds pads are pretty amazing, now I am not super fast but I am no poke either, I run fast intermediate pace, moving to advance group probably in Sept-Oct time frame.
On the street I seldom even use my brakes, the engine braking does most of the work. I have been surprised about just how long a set last!

Betterbuell
07-24-2015, 06:49 PM
I put 21,000 street miles on my 1125r only changed the pads once, 4,000 track miles on two sets, still on my second set, sbs ds pads are pretty amazing, now I am not super fast but I am no poke either, I run fast intermediate pace, moving to advance group probably in Sept-Oct time frame.
On the street I seldom even use my brakes, the engine braking does most of the work. I have been surprised about just how long a set last!

My local track is all fully gassed or full on braking, 230kmh to 30kmh, 255kmh to 80kmh , 180kmh to 60 kmh all in 60 odd seconds. My pads had 0.07mm left and a blue rotor after 1000 road kms and one track day. I just purchased some SBS 586 ds pads . Keeping in mind my last bike hade Brembo monblocs with carbon pads , the EBR is on par as far as feel and power go but concerned with heat build up effecting overall performance and durability.

mackja
07-24-2015, 08:15 PM
Track sounds like it is a real workout! I know you will be pleased with the performance of the sbs 856ds pads, heat has not been an issue for me, no fade. I do bleed my brakes often also, use Motul 600. Like to get some feed back on how you like the sbs pads.

snacktoast
07-24-2015, 10:59 PM
SBS DS pads will greatly help with wear during track use, with much better bite.
mackja has the right combination.

Betterbuell
07-25-2015, 08:26 AM
Track sounds like it is a real workout! I know you will be pleased with the performance of the sbs 856ds pads, heat has not been an issue for me, no fade. I do bleed my brakes often also, use Motul 600. Like to get some feed back on how you like the sbs pads.

Will do, even having 4-5mm on the pads would have made a big difference. I'll have the SBS on next time so will get back to you .

GJB
08-10-2015, 11:21 PM
So where can one get 856ds pads?

mackja
08-14-2015, 05:32 AM
They are a little hard to get here in the states, European sites have them, and Australian sites show them also. sbs just opened a new USA office in Illinois, talking with Chris Jensen (heads up US office) sbs will be bringing more race product to the US.
Now that EBR is back, I am sure the pads will be available again shortly through EBR dealers. http://ebutik.nccr.se/ebr-erik-buell-racing-1/ebr-brakes/ebr-1190-rx-sx-sbs-race-brake-pads-front

GJB
08-18-2015, 12:00 AM
I got some EBC pads while my SBS pads are on order. These are no good for track/race bike. They worked OK for about 3 sessions, then turned to wood... I could pull the lever until it bottomed out. Had a large amount of build up on the rotor so that I could barely rotate the wheel when I pulled in.

Betterbuell
08-24-2015, 06:19 AM
Track sounds like it is a real workout! I know you will be pleased with the performance of the sbs 856ds pads, heat has not been an issue for me, no fade. I do bleed my brakes often also, use Motul 600. Like to get some feed back on how you like the sbs pads.
Ok, i did 2 x half hour on track sessions this weekend at my track . This was an Australian Superbike test day before the next round , so were some fast guys on track. I bedded in a new set of 856ds pads and impressed. No lever fade , not grabby and plenty of power. I'm using a Brembo rc19 master cylinder too. These are every bit as good as the Brembo monblocs with carbon pads on my Ducati.

zviadi
08-24-2015, 06:51 AM
Maybe that's not the brake pads, namely in the RCS19 master cylinder?
I had three motorcycles with Brembo brakes, they slowed better and more predictable than ZTL.
In my opinion, ZTL-brakes are not good. They're unpredictable, with vague feedback. I feel I can go faster than allow me to ZTL brake.
With these brakes, I'm afraid to go fast, because when sudden braking is necessary to use both brakes, which often leads to lock both wheels. The bike starts to dance beneath me.
First I run of stock brake pads, and then replaced with Braking pads. It was better, but not much. This week, I change it back to EBC pads.

snacktoast
08-24-2015, 06:30 PM
SBS DS pads are definitely the way to go on the EBR for heavy track use.
These are what the AMA guys and WSBK guys were running.

GJB
08-24-2015, 10:29 PM
What is the difference in performance between the SBS DS and RS? I could not find RS so I got DS. I also have a set of Ferodos on the way to try.

mackja
08-28-2015, 01:30 PM
The difference is huge, I put a set of RS pads on at Road Atlanta, did one session and took them off and put a set of DS pads on, no comparison the DS pads are the bests pads period for Buell and EBR bikes.

GJB
08-28-2015, 06:08 PM
DS it is then. Hope they last a while at that price......