View Full Version : EBR 1190 AX Adventure Lard?

11-20-2014, 11:15 PM
Don't know if this is real, or some sort of PS joke, either way it's funny -- or tragic depending on your perspective...


11-21-2014, 11:27 AM
Oh, it is most definitely a very poor Photoshop. Dual disks on an EBR? No way. Not to mention the secondary resonator dumping into the right hand saddle bag, fairing screwed into the fuel-holding frame, etc. Somebody took a few sentences from EBR's VP of marketing and ran with them.

Original interview: http://www.autoevolution.com/news/erik-buell-racing-vp-exclusive-interview-ebr-plans-to-conquer-europe-with-lower-prices-88702.html
Follow-up article featuring the pic above: http://www.autoevolution.com/news/exclusive-ebr-1190ax-confirmed-as-sport-adventure-bike-88770.html

Recent interview with EBR's Dane Hoechst at Cycle World. What he says about the AX completely contradicts the photo above: http://www.cycleworld.com/2014/08/29/on-the-record-with-dane-hoechst-erik-buell-racing-program-manager/

11-21-2014, 08:34 PM
LOL! I hope you're right, but I bet the AX (if it ever even makes an appearance) looks more like the 'don't scratch or dent me sport cruiser limo' with ADV lipstick eye sore above, then something like this...


Of course I would absolutely love to be wrong...

12-05-2014, 12:07 PM
In case any of you had any doubts about that pic:



03-13-2015, 11:53 PM
As of now there's nothing but doubt, including doubt that EBR will ever deliver an AX... The goofy mock-up, while goofy...was a pretty clever play on some of the absurdity in the liter plus class of ADV pretenders, unfortunately Buell got the brunt of joke. It is possible to build large, heavy, over-powered, and capable ADV machines...


Yamaha has been the sleeper of the class that's getting more attention from serious ADV riders now looking for something more robust, actually off-road competent, and reliable. Competing sport bikes and cruisers in ADV drag don't seem to even be able to manage a short bumpy trip to Star Bucks without a costly calamity, or serious logistics planning.

Yamaha initially disappointed critical ADV enthusiasts with the bike's substantial heft, limiting 19" front wheel, and suspension travel -- but closer examination and millions of hard miles revealed carefully measured and balanced compromises in Super Ténéré's design: incredibly low cg (even a relatively small rider can get it upright solo), amazing robustness and the ability to 'limp home' on just about broken anything, decent fuel economy, mountains of train like torque -- all with stable forgiving neutral handling on all surfaces that won't exhaust a rider that's truly taking the rough and scenic rout.

There's some good lessons here that Buell (or anyone) could benefit from in exploring ADV bike design.