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EBRRider
02-14-2017, 02:05 PM
Let the fun begin, I just got my new toy, delivered from Texas Dallasmoto , Great deal!!! #85

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:take_it: Thank you Oliver !

Hughlysses
02-14-2017, 02:49 PM
:thumb:

1190SX
02-14-2017, 03:27 PM
Awesome! Just rode mine this morning and I am still loving it! Deans exhaust and ECM arrives this week, should make it even better!

EBRRider
02-14-2017, 03:47 PM
I took the secondary muffler off just to listen not gunna work for me, I must get deans oval pipe in the next few months. Let me know how it sounds thx.

1190SX
02-14-2017, 03:58 PM
Yeah, seems like removing the secondary just allows you to run the race ECM and amplifys the sound it already makes(which is butchered by the primary/cat). Where as a proper system changes the tone and makes it sound completely different in a good way. The only way I would retain any of the factory exhaust is if I deleted the primary and made a proper merge pipe into the secondary, which is basically what the EBR race exhaust from HMF is. It is also significantly more than Deans and doesn't remove near the weight.

BTW-I ride in the central valley from time to time. Next time I bring my EBR over there you can hear it in person if you want.

buell-fan
02-14-2017, 04:41 PM
Dont discount the HMF exhaust too much. IDS has a pretty good tune for that exhaust. It is not as obnoxiously loud as the Dean Adams system if you want performance and can't be unruly all the time. You will never know extra 2.5 pounds of weight was there unless your a mid-level or above racer either.

EBRRider
02-14-2017, 04:50 PM
Yeah, seems like removing the secondary just allows you to run the race ECM and amplifys the sound it already makes(which is butchered by the primary/cat). Where as a proper system changes the tone and makes it sound completely different in a good way. The only way I would retain any of the factory exhaust is if I deleted the primary and made a proper merge pipe into the secondary, which is basically what the EBR race exhaust from HMF is. It is also significantly more than Deans and doesn't remove near the weight.

BTW-I ride in the central valley from time to time. Next time I bring my EBR over there you can hear it in person if you want.

That would be great!!

1190SX
02-14-2017, 05:35 PM
Dont discount the HMF exhaust too much. IDS has a pretty good tune for that exhaust. It is not as obnoxiously loud as the Dean Adams system if you want performance and can't be unruly all the time. You will never know extra 2.5 pounds of weight was there unless your a mid-level or above racer either.

Oh yeah, no doubt it is a great product. If I was interested in that set-up I would probably just build my own merge and retain the stock secondary and tune it. Probably achieve results close to the HMF system for a couple hundred dollars + ECM. Or if I decide Deans is attracting too much attention, maybe I will buy the HMF, but no joke my other bike is so loud I don't even like it anymore and I haven't attracted any unwanted attention on it.. Good thing is you can almost always sell something if you decide its not for you. And to be honest, I don't mind a quiet bike, I would never change the exhaust on my BMW it is perfectly quiet. I just dislike the fact that they kill performance and fueling in the process. They definitely have some flat spots that need to be worked out if you keep it stock, I would be interested to see if they can be worked out and how much power gained on a stock set-up.

bigdexxx
02-14-2017, 05:38 PM
Congratulations on the bike!

They got the bike to you pretty quick too

EBRRider
02-14-2017, 05:51 PM
Congratulations on the bike!

They got the bike to you pretty quick too

They picked it up Friday I am riding it today ! Thx again!!

buell-fan
02-14-2017, 07:04 PM
... They definitely have some flat spots that need to be worked out if you keep it stock, I would be interested to see if they can be worked out and how much power gained on a stock set-up.
Getting the fully programmable race ecm allows you to adjust the timing and fuel to vet out these "problem" areas of the stock system (that are there due to gubment requirements, etc.)

1190SX
02-14-2017, 07:21 PM
Well I guess if I decide to go that route in the future someone is going to get a deal on one of Deans systems and a matching ECM. I have bought 3 bikes in the last 8 months and am currently selling one, so buying and selling as your needs change is nothing new to me. Story of my life lol.

d_adams
02-14-2017, 07:43 PM
For reference on how they look side by side. Tips kit, mine and hmf.

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1190SX
02-14-2017, 08:47 PM
For reference on how they look side by side. Tips kit, mine and hmf.

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Is it bad that I dislike the look of the HMF more than the stock system? I suppose they were limited by the stock mounting set-up, but I prefer the more low profile side exhaust of most newer sports bikes.

1190SX
02-14-2017, 08:53 PM
Getting the fully programmable race ecm allows you to adjust the timing and fuel to vet out these "problem" areas of the stock system (that are there due to gubment requirements, etc.)


Also, maybe I am the only one wondering this, but why is there not a race ECM offered to improve the fueling and timing of the stock system?

d_adams
02-14-2017, 09:03 PM
Nobody ever did testing and tuning to get it done. Small company, limited resources, race efforts that were more oriented to the products they used, ie; old style Buell exhaust or the Arrow system used in WSBK.
They could have designed it any way they chose to, hmf was the stock exhaust supplier and that's what they put out.
I never tried it since all of my tuning efforts and $$ went into my system. Initial cost was considerably higher than anything I'd ever spent on a tune. Just the programmable ecm and widebands ran me right at $1300 alone and that was before doing any tuning at all.

1190SX
02-14-2017, 09:08 PM
I hear that, it is an expensive venture to get into. I was doing car tuning on GMs about 5 years ago and the hardware wasnt cheap. Not to mentioning purchasing licenses at $200 a pop.

EBRRider
02-15-2017, 10:39 AM
Is it bad that I dislike the look of the HMF more than the stock system? I suppose they were limited by the stock mounting set-up, but I prefer the more low profile side exhaust of most newer sports bikes.

I must agree, it seems it should been tucked up closer to the bike, as dean explained they must have had been focused on race apps.

EBRRider
02-15-2017, 02:35 PM
Just got home from the DMV all went well, My TX sx now its a Calif SX bike . :301: and went for a 124 mile ride.

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1190SX
02-15-2017, 05:32 PM
Awesome!

C. Dolan
02-16-2017, 03:24 AM
I got an HMF mid section and adapted an Akra muffler from Ebay.

Have mapped ECU from Buell for an HMF exhaust.


http://ebrforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1309&thumb=1&d=1483423368

d_adams
02-16-2017, 10:52 AM
That looks like it's hanging awfully low. I'd try loosening the clamps and push the midpipe more to the center, maybe try rotating the assembly a little as well to tuck it up a little tighter. I like the Ohlins front, almost bought the EBR specific kit last week when I picked mine up, but couldn't justify spending almost as much on the suspension as what the bike cost me.

1190SX
02-16-2017, 12:24 PM
I would like to tuck it in much more and have the muffler sticking out right behind the rear set. Like the Akrapovic though. Maybe I'll try to make a Termigioni fit and put Ducati decals on the 1190. Mess with the Ducati fans lol.

1190SX
02-16-2017, 07:50 PM
Deans exhaust gets here tomorrow, it's been raining so I decided to take off the stock system and install the quick shifter as well.
I am fighting hard to resist the temptation to fire it up right now, if the neighbors don't mind it now, they wont mind Deans system. Its like I am doing them a favor if anything :biggrin:
https://image.ibb.co/izWOYv/IMG_6483.jpg (https://ibb.co/mxzXRF)

buell-fan
02-16-2017, 10:40 PM
Be sure to give us a full review of that quick shifter. I'm wondering how it works at varied rpm's and at redline going into 6th as well. I need to get one installed before long but don't know which type will suit me best

1190SX
02-16-2017, 11:19 PM
I am running the EBR quick shifter. I had high hopes they would update the software to accommodate auto blipping and assisted downshifts and even contacted EBR about it. They said it was in the works, but then they shut down again :lame:. Guess I am on my own if I want assisted down shifts. I'll be comparing it to the other quick shifter I am familiar with on the BMW S1000RR, so I wont hold back on my evaluation. The S1000 doesn't like it when you try to shift at low rpms <4k.

EBRRider
02-17-2017, 12:04 PM
Deans exhaust gets here tomorrow, it's been raining so I decided to take off the stock system and install the quick shifter as well.
I am fighting hard to resist the temptation to fire it up right now, if the neighbors don't mind it now, they wont mind Deans system. Its like I am doing them a favor if anything :biggrin:
https://image.ibb.co/izWOYv/IMG_6483.jpg (https://ibb.co/mxzXRF)

Here you go ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmDL1ypBwXQ

1190SX
02-17-2017, 01:29 PM
Deans system has arrived!! IT is pouring rain this weekend so the best I will do is a start-up, but I can't wait!

EBRRider
02-17-2017, 01:36 PM
I bet it looks sweet, do you have it on the bike ? or is that a dumb question.

1190SX
02-17-2017, 01:51 PM
Haven't opened the box yet!

EBRRider
02-17-2017, 02:02 PM
Haven't opened the box yet!

:wtf::justkidding:

EBRRider
02-17-2017, 02:02 PM
:wtf::justkidding:

Here you go ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmDL1ypBwXQ

1190SX
02-17-2017, 02:02 PM
https://image.ibb.co/jaez6F/IMG_6485.jpg (https://ibb.co/mPPADv)

EBRRider
02-17-2017, 02:38 PM
:jawdrop:

1190SX
02-17-2017, 02:56 PM
Did I mention how much I hate the Twisted Design tail tidy? The guy who made it needs to rethink the design, it looks cool, but it is a son of a bitch to take off and put back on. If the guy who made it reads this, include a longer bolt with the kit, for the price that would make it a lot easier to use. Dont cheap out when people pay a good price. Thanks

Installed the ECM, getting on to the exhaust next.

EBRRider
02-17-2017, 02:59 PM
If its too loud for your neighbors , sell it to me.:take_it:

1190SX
02-17-2017, 05:31 PM
Got it all buttoned up now! The exhaust went on pretty easily after I figured out how everything went. Now just gotta wait for this rain to stop long enough to fire it up!

https://image.ibb.co/n64kDv/IMG_6493.jpg (https://ibb.co/cSMXtv)

EBRRider
02-17-2017, 05:34 PM
You are killing me, You are not going to fire it up ???:headbang: You have more will power than I.

1190SX
02-17-2017, 06:45 PM
Well, I could, but it is raining so much, I would have to keep the garage closed... So my house might fill with fumes. I suppose a few minutes wont hurt, if you guys never see another post from me I guess you can assume I was wrong about this lol.

EBRRider
02-17-2017, 07:12 PM
You will be fine ,just for 1 min , just to feel it rumble !

1190SX
02-17-2017, 08:33 PM
Sounds awesome!

EBRRider
02-17-2017, 08:39 PM
Sounds awesome!
:badass:

1190SX
02-17-2017, 08:57 PM
https://youtu.be/ozNkPyluZKg

bigdexxx
02-17-2017, 10:56 PM
So how does it run, are you happy with it?

Does the ECM make the bike feel any different?

EBRRider
02-17-2017, 11:40 PM
sounds good, thx i want one !

1190SX
02-17-2017, 11:57 PM
So how does it run, are you happy with it?

Does the ECM make the bike feel any different?

Well, unfortunately it is going to be raining heavily until approximately next Thursday, so I will give a report on the exhaust, ECM, and quick shifter then.

1190SX
02-18-2017, 06:55 PM
Fired her up again today, not going to sugar coat it guys, she is loud. If your neighbors already dislike you, this will definitely improve your relationship lol. It is definitely a better loud than my other bike, more like a helicopter as someone else put it. It literally sounded similar to a helo in the distance when I went in the house while it was running. :twoguns: Going to try and get out while there is a break in the weather to test the quickshifter. Hope it works since I have to outdated dash software.

EBRRider
02-19-2017, 06:33 PM
Fired her up again today, not going to sugar coat it guys, she is loud. If your neighbors already dislike you, this will definitely improve your relationship lol. It is definitely a better loud than my other bike, more like a helicopter as someone else put it. It literally sounded similar to a helo in the distance when I went in the house while it was running. :twoguns: Going to try and get out while there is a break in the weather to test the quickshifter. Hope it works since I have to outdated dash software.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm1lBRB_-E4

1190SX
02-19-2017, 07:30 PM
Yeah, watched that before I bought it. Doesn't do it justice at all. At all...

EBRRider
02-19-2017, 07:43 PM
Yeah, watched that before I bought it. Doesn't do it justice at all. At all...

http://www.aph-performance-engineering.com/ebr_exhausts.html What do you think of this exhaust with Deans ECM tune ?

1190SX
02-19-2017, 08:49 PM
I considered APH along with HMF before I ordered the system from Dean. It would work well with Dean's tune, it is a very similar design. Two distinct differences being: 1. its is not "rebuildable" because it has a fully welded muffler body and 2. it is made in the UK and is a one piece unit, no clamps other than those that connect it to the header. I believe it also retains the stock muffler heat shields which is a nice feature. The main reason I went with Dean over the APH though is because the EBR is the American Superbike, and Dean makes his system right here in the USA. Not to discount APH as he also makes a great product. Additionally turn around time is similar, but slightly longer from APH depending on the time of year and pending orders. Honestly price point is similar once you factor in the ECM, but I believe APH is slightly more expensive. Really depends on who you ask, I would be happy to own either one so I cant really steer you either direction. Both good guys, both make a nice product. Nothing against our friends in the UK, I own a Triumph too :tongue:

I would say, if anything, go with what aesthetically appeals to you. They will both work great and achieve similar results.

EBRRider
02-19-2017, 08:51 PM
http://www.aph-performance-engineering.com/ebr_exhausts.html What do you think of this exhaust with Deans ECM tune ?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzsT0FMlM8U

EBRRider
02-19-2017, 08:52 PM
Thank you for your thoughts , You sure have done your home work in detail.

1190SX
02-22-2017, 09:41 PM
https://youtu.be/6HuV7w4nz4k
Here is a video clip of a fly by with the oval system

EBRRider
02-22-2017, 10:54 PM
Sounds very nice!