I know everyone is going to say that I can order direct, but I don't have $900+ (just started a new job) to throw at a new system and Ecm nor do I want to wait X amount of weeks to receive them as they are built to order. I'm trying to get it as a "Big 33" birthday gift to myself. So if anyone has either of these systems and Ecm that they are willing to part with, please let me know, so I can let the old lady know what I'd like for my birthday. Plus it'll give me some sound to drown out all of the Ducs riding around town